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Old 09-01-2009, 07:43 AM
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I just bought a Jet chip to polish off my build up and I am wondering if anyone has any experience with them? My Build is set-up Stage 2-3, and I am just looking to get a little more aggressive fuel mapping and timing curve. Any thoughts? TIA
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Old 09-02-2009, 09:29 AM
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I have no information to offer, however I am interested in any performance gains/mileage gains/loss that you experience. I'm looking into getting one myself though likely after I get my JBA Headers...
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Old 09-02-2009, 12:34 PM
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I have no information to offer, however I am interested in any performance gains/mileage gains/loss that you experience. I'm looking into getting one myself though likely after I get my JBA Headers...
I will post my results but it will be particular to my truck as I have modded it to stage 2-3. The chip is merely being added to take advantage of the mods I have made. As for the chip I know that from the hours of research and comparing that it is supposed to live up to it's promise on stock trucks. Which is 1-2mpg. 15+/- hp, don't remeber he tq spec. But they are respected by their following. To give you an idea of what I mean I am currently getting 275 Avg. MPT, from the 225MPT it was getting when I bought it. Basically it has a 19 Gal tank but I have only seen 16 Gal. usable, so the original figures put the truck at 14.06 MPG and the current modded figures at 17.18MPG
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Old 09-02-2009, 01:06 PM
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275MPT? I believe I'm getting around 273MPT. Worst tank being 253 and best being 293, using both I figure an average of 273MPT. If my math is correct. I know I get around 16-19 mpg depending on driving conditions and what type of concrete shoes I'm wearing that day. Most of my daily driving can(usually) is highway driving @70-75MPH and city driving is stop and go hell.
Forgive my ignorance but, what dictates that your truck is stage 2-3? Or rather what is stage 2-3?
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Old 09-02-2009, 03:38 PM
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275MPT? I believe I'm getting around 273MPT. Worst tank being 253 and best being 293, using both I figure an average of 273MPT. If my math is correct. I know I get around 16-19 mpg depending on driving conditions and what type of concrete shoes I'm wearing that day. Most of my daily driving can(usually) is highway driving @70-75MPH and city driving is stop and go hell.
Forgive my ignorance but, what dictates that your truck is stage 2-3? Or rather what is stage 2-3?
Hmm, mental note for me "you're getting my current MPG then I need to troubleshoot my truck a little if you have a 4.0l 4x4, w/ 245-75-16's?".

There is a little black book of levels "stages" out there, but I do not have it. I learned from receipes envolving specific upgrades. Basically everything has a stage criteria, aerodynamics, fuel, cams, ignition, exhaust, suspension, brakes, etc., but it gets fuzzy the higher you go due to specifics that each build requires, i.e. high tq, high hp, I am sure you know you wouldn't upgrade the same for the dragstrip as you would rallycross. Most people do some really silly things that often negate the other mods, for instance dropping cats and going glasspack on a modern N.A. car.

Air
1-filter upgrade
2-CAI, or pop charger
3-scooped
4-Forced induction
5-IC forced induction

Exhaust
1-shiney tip! j/k
2-muffler
3-catback
4-headers
5-high flow cats

Fuel
1-filter
2-pump
3-injectors
Here it seems to have pre-requisites depending on what you are trying to achieve. ie. cams, headers, ignition,

Cams
1-mild
2-wild
3-hot
ditto from above, when you go beyond here you usually end up with a lobber and there are alot of other requirements.

My vehicle has a CAI w/ Ram Air, JBA wires, +4 plugs, DynoMax Catback "w/Shiney Tip +5hp!", Walbro fuel pump, Aeroquip fuel filter, Not to mention a K&N sticker and a N.O.S. sticker good for a combined 20hp! j/k.
So my build is not a solid Stage 3 build but a 2-3 build. HTH
Also it would be nice to know if your vehicle is the same or if you have the 3.0l

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Old 09-03-2009, 07:29 AM
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The FX4 Lvl II is a 4.0l with 31x10.50/15s stock.
How do you like the JBA plug wires? I'm trying to get a set myself. And what does upgrading the fuel filter do? I've never actually heard of a filter upgrade unless you put in a highflow fuel pump/rails.
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Old 09-03-2009, 11:28 AM
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The FX4 Lvl II is a 4.0l with 31x10.50/15s stock.
How do you like the JBA plug wires? I'm trying to get a set myself. And what does upgrading the fuel filter do? I've never actually heard of a filter upgrade unless you put in a highflow fuel pump/rails.
Upgrading the fuel filter ensures you have good flow to the injectors and the upgraded pump gives you a better flow rate for the fuel mapping. These are stage 1 and 2, as they are a requirement before you upgrade the fuel rail(what good does it do to have a upgraded fuel rail in a merely par fuel system.) and injectors, but I am simply keeping the stock injectors I just want to be able to take full advantage of the Jet chip mapping. If I have to replace the injectors I will do so with better ones but keep the stock flow rate as I am looking for MPG. Hmm, it sucks to hear that yours is the same as mine but I am only on the second tank the computer still has not ully calibrated to the mods yet. I think I'll poll the masses for a general idea of actual mileage avgs..
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Old 09-03-2009, 11:42 AM
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Ah.. Ok, I see it now. Keep in mind that my posted number is not an actual factored "avg" but rather it is the mean. So my actual average may vary to that number but 273MPT is a good place to start. Also keep in mind a good portion of my driving is highway speeds of 65 and over, average highway speed is about 73mph.

Would I see any performance to be gained with the components I have installed currently and upgrading to a better Fuel Filter? Or would it be wiser to get the plug wires and headers first? TIA
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Old 09-03-2009, 11:46 AM
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Ah.. Ok, I see it now. Keep in mind that my posted number is not an actual factored "avg" but rather it is the mean. So my actual average may vary to that number but 273MPT is a good place to start. Also keep in mind a good portion of my driving is highway speeds of 65 and over, average highway speed is about 73mph.

Would I see any performance to be gained with the components I have installed currently and upgrading to a better Fuel Filter? Or would it be wiser to get the plug wires and headers first? TIA
Well it depends on what you are looking to do. . . . .
Why are you installing headers?

It is good to hear that I may not be too far off from the norm as my miles are the avg. of city and highway about 60/40 city/hwy.
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Old 09-03-2009, 11:54 AM
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Headers for better exhaust flow/management, MPG, and I've heard it gives better sound when paired with cat-back exhaust and CAI. I'm not looking for incredible street performance, but I don't want to hurt stock. I'm looking for better wheeling advantages. More torque usually is better in off-road in my experiences.
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Old 09-03-2009, 12:21 PM
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Headers for better exhaust flow/management, MPG, and I've heard it gives better sound when paired with cat-back exhaust and CAI. I'm not looking for incredible street performance, but I don't want to hurt stock. I'm looking for better wheeling advantages. More torque usually is better in off-road in my experiences.
More tq is always better in my experience. But there are different types of headers, long and short and they effect performance in different ways. I would recommend saving headers for last. An easy way to remember is you don't begin a race at the finish line, so don't start your build up at the end of the line either. Stock headers are designed to give you a reliable wide powerband. When you add headers you are sacrificing one end or the other, unless you have built the engine to operate above the stock parameters. A a rule of thumb start at the beginning of the combustion line and work your way back, so you don't end up like these poor ignorant terds who cut out their entire exhaust and wonder why they floor it and don't go any where. It seems ignorance is the new cool, Big time builds can operate with no backpressure, these builds are referred to as Blown, or lobbers. With this knowledge alone many people assume that if they cut out their exhaust they can be just as fast. This is really sad. If you really want somehing get out there and learn about it. You should do your best to make the best decision in everything you do, buy a house, get married, have kids, have a pet for the love of God, but yet you see people make ignorant decisions with these things everyday, and well you also see the results. The same applies to what is quite possibly the second biggest investment in your life. . . . .
Amen.
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:39 AM
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lol, I'm not sure if that was a rant, but I do take it as sound advice.
What would your suggestion be as to the next upgrade then? Like I said, I want a better wheeling experience without sacraficing on-road ride/capabilities and emptying the pocket book.

Edit: The Headers would be the stock replacement that JBA offers for the 4.0. The silver-ceramic to be precise.
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:11 PM
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lol, I'm not sure if that was a rant, but I do take it as sound advice.
What would your suggestion be as to the next upgrade then? Like I said, I want a better wheeling experience without sacraficing on-road ride/capabilities and emptying the pocket book.

Edit: The Headers would be the stock replacement that JBA offers for the 4.0. The silver-ceramic to be precise.
Hmm, rant, could be but that is just me. People pick up my meaning very easily and understand what I am saying. Well for wheeling I would focus on Better plugs, a low temp thermo, Much better wires, and a good open catback would help and give you that grunt you are probably looking for and the weight savings is the best thing for you. If you add a good short CAI, it'll also help the exhaust note. You may want to look at some project ideas to get cold air to the intake like maybe a custom filter box (you design and build). The cooler the air, the better the burn/power. After you have done these things you'll be getting close to the chipping area and then of course headers. . . . .
My preffered rule of Upgrading
1. Air
2. Ign.
3. Fuel
4. Exhaust
5. Tune
6. Externals, pulleys, mounts, dampners, etc.

But this is do to the fact that I have the money to do what I need to when I do a build. Piece by piece I go the route I am recommending to you.

Just caught your edit, they would be good headers. I would say do some research on headers and see what you are looking for, learn what the pro/con to coated headers are and what the diff typr of headers are and why.

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Old 09-04-2009, 07:18 PM
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Only problem with spark plug wires there are no "performance" grade out there for the ranger.

Unless they have come out with something in the past year I have not seen. Factory wire is a 8mm and that is what size all aftermarket ones are
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Old 09-04-2009, 09:28 PM
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There are a many avail. wires in Universal format, Mallory, MSD 8.5, Moroso Race 8.65, Taylor 10.4 pro race(overkill), JBA Wires are a decent upgrade wire but there are better.

Keep in mind it is not the size that counts it is the resistance per foot, size is usually equated to better insulation/heat protection(Ole Ranger taint gonna be a heat issue). Wires that generally use better materials generally cost more.

Think if all tires are the same size does that mean they are all the same performance?

How many race crews do you think buy pre packaged products? . . . . .

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