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Old 10-06-2018, 11:04 AM
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No one can actually prove there was/wasn't creatures that became a part of crude oil. Why? Because they weren't there to see those materials get buried over time. Any of it could have trace amounts. I'm not saying it's made FROM dinos, just that they could be part of it and no one would ever know. It's like saying the tar pits aren't made from dinos. Sure it is. Just very minute amounts of them compared to the volume of tar/oil.

"biological material deposited millions of years ago"


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"The standard answer to "what kind of dead stuff does the oil in the ground come from?" is "marine plankton and algae." In other words, there are no dinosaur fossils in those fossil fuels.

Except that's not quite right.

Most oil comes from ocean life buried on the seabed. But the poetic idea that our fuels contain dinosaur ghosts is in some ways true as well. There are a few things required for oil to form, including quick burial of large amounts of hydrogen-rich organic matter in a low-oxygen environment.

But hydrocarbon formation is a multi-step process[4] and lots of things can affect it. A huge amount of organic material washes into the ocean, and while most of it doesn't end up in oil-producing sediments, some of it does.[5] Some oil fields—like Australia's—seem to have a lot of terrestrial sources. Most of this is plants, but some is certainly animals.

No matter where it came from, only a small fraction of the oil in your plastic dinosaur could be directly from real dinosaur corpses. If it came from a Mesozoic-era oil field fed heavily by land matter, it might contain a slightly larger share of dinosaurs; if it came from a pre-Mesozoic field sealed beneath caprock, it might contain no dinosaur at all.

A so-called fossil fuel, petroleum is believed by most scientists to be the transformed remains of long dead organisms. The majority of petroleum is thought to come from the fossils of plants and tiny marine organisms. Larger animals might contribute to the mix as well.

"Even some of the dinosaurs may have gotten involved in some of this," says William Thomas, a geologist at the University of Kentucky. "[Although] I think it would be quite rare and a very small and insignificant contribution."
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No one can actually prove there was/wasn't creatures that became a part of crude oil. Why? Because they weren't there to see those materials get buried over time. Any of it could have trace amounts. I'm not saying it's made FROM dinos, just that they could be part of it and no one would ever know. It's like saying the tar pits aren't made from dinos. Sure it is. Just very minute amounts of them compared to the volume of tar/oil.

"biological material deposited millions of years ago"


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"The standard answer to "what kind of dead stuff does the oil in the ground come from?" is "marine plankton and algae." In other words, there are no dinosaur fossils in those fossil fuels.

Except that's not quite right.

Most oil comes from ocean life buried on the seabed. But the poetic idea that our fuels contain dinosaur ghosts is in some ways true as well. There are a few things required for oil to form, including quick burial of large amounts of hydrogen-rich organic matter in a low-oxygen environment.

But hydrocarbon formation is a multi-step process[4] and lots of things can affect it. A huge amount of organic material washes into the ocean, and while most of it doesn't end up in oil-producing sediments, some of it does.[5] Some oil fields—like Australia's—seem to have a lot of terrestrial sources. Most of this is plants, but some is certainly animals.

No matter where it came from, only a small fraction of the oil in your plastic dinosaur could be directly from real dinosaur corpses. If it came from a Mesozoic-era oil field fed heavily by land matter, it might contain a slightly larger share of dinosaurs; if it came from a pre-Mesozoic field sealed beneath caprock, it might contain no dinosaur at all.

A so-called fossil fuel, petroleum is believed by most scientists to be the transformed remains of long dead organisms. The majority of petroleum is thought to come from the fossils of plants and tiny marine organisms. Larger animals might contribute to the mix as well.

"Even some of the dinosaurs may have gotten involved in some of this," says William Thomas, a geologist at the University of Kentucky. "[Although] I think it would be quite rare and a very small and insignificant contribution."


You just proved to everyone that you are wrong. Next question.
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Old 10-07-2018, 01:14 PM
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You just proved to everyone that you are wrong. Next question.
Can you even f'n read? lmao


"Some oil fields—like Australia's—seem to have a lot of terrestrial sources. Most of this is plants, but some is certainly animals."

"If it came from a Mesozoic-era oil field fed heavily by land matter, it might contain a slightly larger share of dinosaurs"

"Larger animals might contribute to the mix as well."

""Even some of the dinosaurs may have gotten involved in some of this," says William Thomas"



I'll also add my original statement to this; "None of you can really prove that conventional oil doesn't have actual dinosaur juice in it. We all realize where it actually comes from, but still, you can't prove it."


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Old 10-20-2018, 09:16 AM
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Did an engine-flush, new filter and poured-in 5 qts. of Mobile 1. We'll drop it out at 5000 miles. Follow-up then.
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Can you even f'n read? lmao


"Some oil fields—like Australia's—seem to have a lot of terrestrial sources. Most of this is plants, but some is certainly animals."

"If it came from a Mesozoic-era oil field fed heavily by land matter, it might contain a slightly larger share of dinosaurs"

"Larger animals might contribute to the mix as well."

""Even some of the dinosaurs may have gotten involved in some of this," says William Thomas"



I'll also add my original statement to this; "None of you can really prove that conventional oil doesn't have actual dinosaur juice in it. We all realize where it actually comes from, but still, you can't prove it."
And apparently your sources cant "DEFINE" or "PROVE" it either... All of the above words themselves or "maybe's", "what if's", and "sorta not so much's" and are, if those were direct quotes anyway, perfect examples of S.W.A.G * if I ever seen it..


S.W.A.G. = Scientific Wild Ass Guessing. Find a credible source that can prove numbers.. MATH doesn't lie.

2nd, if your Time era is correct, show me where being in Australia would have been much different than anywhere else in the world if the world, by Science's definition; the world looked like this during the Mesozoic-era??



Show us Australia... Please? And they say is between 252 million to 66 million years ago thats when dino's lived, but still yet the bible describes within 2500 years or so of written history something different.

In Job 40:15-19, there is a reference to what is certainly the creature we call “dinosaur”: “Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly! He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. His bones are as strong pieces of brass, his bones are like bars of iron. He is the chief of the ways of God he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.” For this animal to be described by God as “the chief,” it must surely have been a huge and magnificent sight!

“Behemoth” in Hebrew translates as “gigantic beast.” Some, trying to relate this animal to our own experience, say it refers to an elephant or hippopotamus, yet neither of these have a “tail like a cedar.”

Elsewhere in the Bible, there are mentions of animals fitting descriptions of different kinds of dinosaurs for which we have physical evidence.
Isaiah 27:1 — “… and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.”
Jeremiah 51:34 — “… he hath swallowed me up like a dragon, he hath filled his belly with my delicates …”
Psalms 74:13 — “… thou brakest the heads of the dragons in the waters.”
Job 41:19-21 — “Out of his mouth go burning lamps, and sparks of fire leap out. Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron. His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth.”
Isaiah 30:6 — “… the viper and fiery flying serpent …”

Most often, these animals are referred to as “dragons,” as we see in the Bible, because there was no word “dinosaur.” Remember that “dinosaur” is a more modern term, coined in 1841 by Sir Richard Owen, an English anatomist, from the Greek words “deinos” (terrible, monstrous) and “sauros” (lizard).

So where I dont expect you to convert to my thoughts or beliefs, there is evidence elsewhere that suggested that the time period is NOT that old and maybe in your defense Australia wasn't too far from where it is now... there's a lot of dynamics that can be associated however lacking in the optics of truth of sight seen with ones own eyes.




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Old 10-21-2018, 10:34 AM
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Still, no one can prove or disprove that dinosaurs weren't part of the mix. No one truly knows, either way.

Oh, and you lost me with your ridiculous bible nonsense. Sorry, but I'm not in to reading fictional books about murderers, whores, imaginary gods, etc..







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It's okay.. most everything we've been told is a lie in someway form, shape, or other.. I care not which end yours is most from
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