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Old 01-18-2012, 09:55 AM
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i have the same problem with my ranger. it's done it multiple times, where it won't start after i drive it, then a few hours later it'll start right up. it'll turn over real strong like it wants to start, but it just won't. the one time i pinned the gas pedal after waiting about an hour it started, if that means anything. no one has found the issue with my ranger yet, and it's frustrating for sure. i had a cracked coil pack which i replaced and it didn't fix the problem. it's a 97, 2.3 liter 5 speed. there are no codes either, so i feel kind of stuck. any ideas for me to check??
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Old 01-18-2012, 10:03 AM
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I know it's a old thread but my truck did the same thing. It's a fuel pump. I knew right away because after I went for a drive across town and turned it off and tried to turn it back on the fuel pump was quite and I can always hear it prime. Replaced it and it's been fine ever since.
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Old 01-18-2012, 10:07 AM
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I know it's a old thread but my truck did the same thing. It's a fuel pump. I knew right away because after I went for a drive across town and turned it off and tried to turn it back on the fuel pump was quite and I can always hear it prime. Replaced it and it's been fine ever since.
Thanks JT - I didn't want to have to buy an IAC, a coil pack and a fuel pump...so I think I'll invest in a pump.

I tried the starter spray fix and it did not get the truck started.
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Old 01-18-2012, 11:42 AM
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Thanks JT - I didn't want to have to buy an IAC, a coil pack and a fuel pump...so I think I'll invest in a pump.

I tried the starter spray fix and it did not get the truck started.
so you started this thread 9 months ago...you never did the tests we suggested and now you are going to throw in a new pump without doing a proper DX.........YIKES

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i have the same problem with my ranger. it's done it multiple times, where it won't start after i drive it, then a few hours later it'll start right up. it'll turn over real strong like it wants to start, but it just won't. the one time i pinned the gas pedal after waiting about an hour it started, if that means anything. no one has found the issue with my ranger yet, and it's frustrating for sure. i had a cracked coil pack which i replaced and it didn't fix the problem. it's a 97, 2.3 liter 5 speed. there are no codes either, so i feel kind of stuck. any ideas for me to check??
reread this thread......do the procedures and tests that were suggested....ie. determine if you have fuel and or spark when it will not start. plan on doing some fuel pressure test. Pull the vacuum line off the fuel pressure regulator and make sure there is no gas in it. .if you do need a pump pulling the bed is the easiest for the DIY

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I tried the starter spray fix and it did not get the truck started.
if it did not start at all when you sprayed starter fluid into the Tb then it is most likely not a fuel problem and your pump is fine......fuel pressure test are the only way to know for sure....my guess is a spark or timing issue..see if you have a spark next time it does not start
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:25 PM
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so you started this thread 9 months ago...you never did the tests we suggested and now you are going to throw in a new pump without doing a proper DX.........YIKES
You're right, this should have been handled a long time ago. During the summer, my Mustang becomes my primary vehicle and the Ranger is reserved for hauling when needed.

Last time this happened, I checked for spark using a plug spark tester gadget, and we were getting spark. I have purchased a fuel pressure gauge but haven't had this issue happen since I got the gauge. I guess my question is why would allowing the truck to "cool" for an hour help a timing or spark issue? Recently I've read that a fuel pump relay could be the culprit. My plan is to wait until this happens again and check the pressure gauge.
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:32 PM
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You're right, this should have been handled a long time ago. During the summer, my Mustang becomes my primary vehicle and the Ranger is reserved for hauling when needed.

Last time this happened, I checked for spark using a plug spark tester gadget, and we were getting spark. I have purchased a fuel pressure gauge but haven't had this issue happen since I got the gauge. I guess my question is why would allowing the truck to "cool" for an hour help a timing or spark issue? Recently I've read that a fuel pump relay could be the culprit. My plan is to wait until this happens again and check the pressure gauge.
if it was the fuel pump relay it would be more random........the fuel pump clicks on and off as you drive....I doubt it would consistently just stay off after you turned the car off.........do the required fuel pressure test and try and catch a pending code....
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Old 01-19-2012, 07:19 AM
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so you started this thread 9 months ago...you never did the tests we suggested and now you are going to throw in a new pump without doing a proper DX.........YIKES

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reread this thread......do the procedures and tests that were suggested....ie. determine if you have fuel and or spark when it will not start. plan on doing some fuel pressure test. Pull the vacuum line off the fuel pressure regulator and make sure there is no gas in it. .if you do need a pump pulling the bed is the easiest for the DIY
well i honestly don't know how to do tests like that or anything, and the problem with me having someone test all that is that it might not give accurate results because the issue is so intermittent that no one can find the problem. my truck will start perfectly 95% of the time, so everything is normal except for one random time out of no where when it won't start. but, it would probably be a good thing to have all those tests done anyway, just to be sure.
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Old 01-19-2012, 07:21 AM
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well i honestly don't know how to do tests like that or anything, and the problem with me having someone test all that is that it might not give accurate results because the issue is so intermittent that no one can find the problem. my truck will start perfectly 95% of the time, so everything is normal except for one random time out of no where when it won't start. but, it would probably be a good thing to have all those tests done anyway, just to be sure.
it sounds like you need to bring it to a real Mechanic......
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Old 01-19-2012, 10:01 AM
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i've had a few mechanics look at it and basically tell me they have no idea, and want to spend even more hours looking at it. a mechanic today said it seems like it could be my fuel pump relay going bad, or my fuel pump altogether. someone will eventually figure it out.
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Old 01-19-2012, 08:40 PM
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You're right, this should have been handled a long time ago. During the summer, my Mustang becomes my primary vehicle and the Ranger is reserved for hauling when needed.

Last time this happened, I checked for spark using a plug spark tester gadget, and we were getting spark. I have purchased a fuel pressure gauge but haven't had this issue happen since I got the gauge. I guess my question is why would allowing the truck to "cool" for an hour help a timing or spark issue? Recently I've read that a fuel pump relay could be the culprit. My plan is to wait until this happens again and check the pressure gauge.
I don't know if this will help but I had this issue on a motorcycle I had and it ended up being the coil pack. Breaks can form in the wires inside the coil pack. When the coil pack is cold the wires make contact, when it heats up enough the wires separate and break the connection but when it is allowed to cool off the wires will go back together and recomplete the connection.
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Old 01-20-2012, 12:35 AM
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What do you mean by hot ? Is the engine running hot ?
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Old 03-14-2012, 03:07 AM
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i'm having the same problem. 2002 ranger 2.3 5 spd. i bought from carmax a month ago. it was a fleet truck. when its gets hot(normal heat soak) it will not start or even turn over. clutch safety switch was melted so carmax changed this out but problem still exist. if it sits overnite fires right up.pats system working normal too. carmax has delivered truck to ford dealership to find the culprit. my 30 day warranty was up but carmax still will cover for free due to ongoing problem

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Old 04-24-2012, 09:24 AM
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A new Fuel Pump has cured this problem.
The bad pump was the original 101,000 mile FoMoCo pump.
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Old 08-02-2012, 06:32 PM
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I know this is an old post. Did you ever determine the problem? I am having the same symptoms with my 97 Ford Ranger. My mechanic is stumped.
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Old 08-02-2012, 10:04 PM
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I know this is an old post. Did you ever determine the problem? I am having the same symptoms with my 97 Ford Ranger. My mechanic is stumped.
Take a look at the preceding post (#28)
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