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Old 08-15-2017, 01:15 PM
Birchhatchery Birchhatchery is offline
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i have a hesitation in my 3.0 97 102 thousand miles. I've replaced plugs plug wires coil pack, idle air control sensor, mass air flow sensor, fuel filter fuel pump ascending unit. what happens is truck fires up runs fine idles fine goes down high way no miss but when I come up to a stop sign and idle their for a bit and I push on gas it hesitates bogs down then picks right back up and takes off like nothing happened no engine codes either! only thing I can think of is 2 things I need to clean my Intake or my coil pack I may try putting old one back on seeing if that takes it away?
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Old 08-17-2017, 03:37 PM
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Old 08-18-2017, 01:16 AM
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i have a hesitation in my 3.0 97 102 thousand miles. I've replaced plugs plug wires coil pack, idle air control sensor, mass air flow sensor, fuel filter fuel pump ascending unit. what happens is truck fires up runs fine idles fine goes down high way no miss but when I come up to a stop sign and idle their for a bit and I push on gas it hesitates bogs down then picks right back up and takes off like nothing happened no engine codes either! only thing I can think of is 2 things I need to clean my Intake or my coil pack I may try putting old one back on seeing if that takes it away?
Sorry it took so long to get to your question, I have been busy dealing with subscribed threads and have had a chance to look for unanswered questions.

Did the truck run good before all the work you did ?

Did you have any codes before the work started ?

Did any of the problems you once had change after the work for better or worse?

From your description I would start with a Fuel pressure test.

Test the pressure with the engine running then shut the truck off and let it sit for 1/2 hour and see if the pressure bleeds down.

Post your findings.

The other thing that may be a possibility is a slight worn spot on the Throttle position sensor.

I have found that a TPS will wear out the most from the idle position to part throttle, this wear can cause erratic voltage to the computer that happens fast enough that the computer does not notice it and will not trigger a code.

I used to have to have a very sensitive Lab Scope to detect this type of malfunction. ( I admit this is a rare problem as normally a TPS will fail bad enough to trigger a code )

Most of the time a test of the TPS using a Digital volt ohm meter will reveal a obviously bad TPS.

Your TPS should have three wires normally unless my memory fails me the center wire " may " be the wire that goes to the computer and should read with a DVOM about 1 volt with the key on and go up to around 5 volts as you depress the throttle.

The other option is your truck is running fine and your throttle cable may be stretched not allowing wide open throttle.

To check for this have someone hold the throttle to the floor with the engine off, look under the hood at the throttle body to see if you can manually open the throttle further.

If the throttle cable is the problem there should be plenty of threads on the throttle cable mod.

I looked everywhere for a new cable for my 2002 I had, and came up empty handed.

If you do a sweep of the TPS and find that it seems to function properly but will not go up to 5 volts this would be another reason to suspect the throttle cable.

Remember it could also just be a worn TPS if you are unsure ask questions and post your findings.

There are many other things you can check and other possibilities of what could be wrong but we have to start somewhere, getting feedback from you on the questions I asked is a good place to start.

The other information I provided may or may not be of any use depending on your answers. so do not rush out and buy or rent any diagnostic tools just yet.
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Old 08-18-2017, 01:20 PM
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no codes now had a code of the DPFE sensor I fixed that it gone had a code of bad camshaft synronizer put new one in fixed that. It really just happened when I put a new coil pack on and fixed the DPFE sensor code wich was a bent pin one the main computer on firewall on the other thread I mentioned. so I think I'm going to try put the old COIL pack back on and see if that takes care of it maybe its sporadically missing now and then I just bought a L cheepo didn't buy motorcraft
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Old 08-19-2017, 06:25 AM
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and what I don't understand is it don't always do it the last couple times its just done it after its sat all night I fire it up mourning take out outta my drive way it will hesitate once then and not do it the rest of the day ever after it sets for 9 hours at work it wont
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Old 08-19-2017, 06:35 AM
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Default Re: hesitation

My 2003 3.0 does that same thing, hesitation is not constant and doesn't matter whether the A/C is on or off. Very annoying, I've metered just about everything and I have checked for vacuum leaks 3/4 times, nothing out of spec


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Old 08-19-2017, 09:34 AM
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ya my AC has a leak so its never on
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Old 09-30-2017, 05:24 AM
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ok truck still does it not any worse still the same no codes! I ran sea foam threw the intake no change like I said I have put all the new parts on it trien to figure out the DPFE code issue and that is fixed Fuel Pump is fine
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Old 10-06-2017, 04:31 AM
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I seen a video, but don't remember when. Same thing you have. Started throwing parts at it, with no change. He found a hair line crack in one of the heads.
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Old 10-07-2017, 07:31 AM
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lets hope that's not the problem
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Old 10-08-2017, 10:46 AM
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Default Re: hesitation

Had a similar condition, injectors turned out to be the cause.

Get yourself a cheap bluetooth OBD II (like 15 bucks) and torque pro on your phone. It will show you real time misfire counts and you can see if you're actually missing AND WHERE.

After that, just fuel, spark, air, compression.
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Old 10-08-2017, 05:54 PM
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i have a purdy advanced code reader ive done full system test says everything is running as it should no miss fire
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Old 10-14-2017, 11:12 AM
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any ideas
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Old 10-14-2017, 08:24 PM
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Mine does the same thing until the coolant temp gets up to 110* then gets real smooth. Hasn't gotten worse, just consider it a bug for now. No codes and I do regular maintenance. Acts like a dead spot in the TPS until it warms up. I'm thinking the PCM doesn't know how to act til it warms up some
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Old 10-15-2017, 03:29 AM
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ya mine defintaly worse when it cold guess will just roll with it until it gets bad or throws me a code
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