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Old 04-21-2010, 07:50 AM
Northern_ranger Northern_ranger is offline
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Default Ranger Idling at low RPM?

Hey all, I just had a quick question, as I'm still learning all the tricks to the standard transmission. I have a 2007 Ranger Sport 3.0L V6, and I was wondering about the RPM. When I first start it up, I get about 1500RPM, sufficient enough to "bite" the clutch and start without using the gas simutaneously. But, after running for about 10 minutes or so, the RPM dips down to an idle under 1000, about 900 or 850, and you can tell the engine isn't idling as high as when I started it. I can't seem to "bite" the clutch at this RPM, it just shudders and dies, and when the inevatible comes and I have to "bite" the clutch on a steep hill to start after stopping, I don't want to be caught in this situation. Is this RPM a normal idling speed?
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Old 04-26-2010, 08:02 AM
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Default Re: Ranger Idling at low RPM?

Normal idle will be under 1000, mine idles around 750 or so once its warmed up. Starting at around 1500 rpm is normal when you first start especially if its cold out(below freezing especially). The clutch will still have a point where it bites at normal idle rpms, just have to find it and not go past that point until you apply some throttle.
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Old 04-26-2010, 11:08 PM
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Normal idle will be under 1000, mine idles around 750 or so once its warmed up. Starting at around 1500 rpm is normal when you first start especially if its cold out(below freezing especially). The clutch will still have a point where it bites at normal idle rpms, just have to find it and not go past that point until you apply some throttle.
Oh, Ok, I'll have to experiment when I get the chance, my dad was telling me that starting like that is especially harder on the clutch, he and a friend told me to use the e-brake and release when the engine pulls at the brake. What method do you use? Thanks for the reply btw!
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Old 04-26-2010, 11:34 PM
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Default Re: Ranger Idling at low RPM?

Ummm...well i'm confused by this post. A cold engine, in every vehicle, will idle at a higher RPM until it warms up to normal operating temperature. Completely normal.

Then your question about the clutch. This is where I'm confused. The proper way to operate a manual transmission is a balance of the throttle and clutch. The smoother the shift the longer your clutch will last. If your question is about balancing on a hill by engaging the e-brake. You can do that by I recommend learning your vehicle and getting more experience driving a manual. It is always best to have immediate control of your vehicle at all times. The e-brake will delay your response to any situation that might arise. Also engaging the e-brake on a hill and then giving throttle until it "bites" will wear your clutch as fast as balancing the throttle and clutch.

Check out howstuffworks.com and see how a manual clutch works. This might help answer your question if you see how a clutch actually works. Enjoy the Ranger!
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Old 04-27-2010, 03:16 AM
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What he said ^^^ I do it the 'right way' or at least the way I was taught and balance the clutch and throttle, even on hills. It can be done without stalling the engine. I've seen several people lately use the e-brake trick to start on even slight hills and I wanna know who started teaching this because to me its like cheating on a test, gets the job done but could also get you into trouble. The clutch will be fine like this just don't "ride" it or have the clutch half engaged while revving up the engine. Stay on the brake until the clutch starts to bite enough to hold the truck then start applying throttle while you continue to release the clutch. This is where practice comes in, you have to find the point that you can completely release the clutch and the engine won't stall. Get off the clutch pedal here and keep on truckin. The common mistake is to stay on the clutch too long with the engine at high rpms until the vehicle gets up enough speed to match the high rpms, this will wear a clutch out quick!
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Old 04-27-2010, 08:02 PM
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Default Re: Ranger Idling at low RPM?

Thanks for the replies everyone, I appreciate it. Sorry about the confusion, I'm still new at this "manual" business!! I tried the e-brake thing today, and to tell you the truth, I didn't really like it, so I think I will start practicing holding on the clutch like some of you described. Thanks again everyone.
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Old 04-27-2010, 08:18 PM
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Your welcome and good luck! Once you get it, you'll never want to drive anything but a manual. Plus if you get really good at it you won't even need a clutch. Also you can learn to double clutch when down shifting though this is mainly for vehicles without synchros (tractor trailers) and you have to rev the engine to match the next gear down. If you ever watched fast and the furious Vin Diesel says you should double clutch.

Also if your worried about wearing out the clutch, whenever your sitting at a light for a while stick it in neutral and let off the clutch. The idea with every aspect of driving a manual is to have the clutch depressed as little as possible.
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Old 04-27-2010, 11:06 PM
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For sure man, I appreciate the tips. I actually live in an area where we just have one highway passing through (the Alaska Highway) and other than that, just dirt driveways and roads!! So I haven't really driven in the city, but I can manage if I have to, but I'm going to have to learn the "ropes" of the standard once I move out to the city!!
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