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Old 04-23-2014, 03:12 PM
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Default Oil pan gasket replacement 3.0 4WD

I'm trying to remove the oil pan on my 1999 Ranger 3.0 4WD.

I've taken the starter motor out, dropped the oil pan a couple of inches, and now I'm trying to drop the front diff so I can drop it enough to clear it.

Is there a better way of doing this without pulling the engine? It's driving me crazy.

How do I drop the transmission enough so that I can clear it? I'm not clear about what to do.

Any ideas?

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Old 04-23-2014, 03:16 PM
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I'm trying to remove the oil pan on my 1999 Ranger 3.0 4WD. I've taken the starter motor out, dropped the oil pan a couple of inches, and now I'm trying to drop the front diff so I can drop it enough to clear it. Is there a better way of doing this without pulling the engine? It's driving me crazy. How do I drop the transmission enough so that I can clear it? I'm not clear about what to do. Any ideas? Thanks!
have at least jack the engine
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Old 04-23-2014, 09:05 PM
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Default Re: Oil pan gasket replacement 3.0 4WD

I would look at all the 4wd threads in this forum for more info. Seems like I saw a few threads about oil pan gaskets on 4wd's when I was looking for more info before I started my oil pump replacement project. That was a pain in the butt on my 3.0/2wd Ranger but I saved myself about $600.
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Old 04-24-2014, 11:13 AM
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Default Re: Oil pan gasket replacement 3.0 4WD

Thanks.

Yeah, I found some advice on how to do it somewhere else, but it seems it didn't take into account it being a 4WD. Now I'm in the middle of the job and don't have access to any kind of engine crane, so I have to do as best I can.

someone said he did it by dropping the front diff and pulling the tranny back a bit. I just have to work out how to do that and then I think I'm OK

Hell of a difficult job, either way.
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Old 04-25-2014, 03:51 PM
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So I've jacked up the engine just beyond the mount stud (about an inch or so), I've dropped the front diff, and now it just hangs there, stuck on something near the transmission.

Someone said it's the oil pickup tube, but I can't seem to access where it's bolted on. Any ideas, anybody? I'm really wishing I hadn't started this job, but now I'm so far in there's no way out.

Would it help if I dropped the transmission a bit? Is that even possible? And if so, how do I go about it? I read in another forum that it's possible to drop the front part of the tranny so that it's possible to pull it back a bit, so there's clearance for the oil pan.

But it seems to me the issue is with this oil pickup tube, which I don't think I'd be able to access even if the engine was out.

Any ideas, anyone? Getting a bit desperate now!

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Old 04-27-2014, 01:34 PM
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Don't know if this will help or not, but here's what it looks like with the oil pan off.

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Old 04-27-2014, 02:28 PM
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I haven't came across an American vehicle that had enough space to get an oil pan off or a dropable front frame cross member under the engine to facilitate dropping the pan since at least as far back as the 60's. However, I have replaced the four piece oil pan gasket on SBC's without yanking engines by raising the engine up as far as I can in the front, taking out the pan screws, lowering the pan as much as possible, cleaning off the old gasket (this really sucks, no workspace) then installing. I used thread to hold the gasket sections to the pan (didn't need to do this at every screw hole), then when the pan was up against the engine block and positioned, I'd cut the thread, pull it out and insert a screw.

So now after hearing this and despite your having a one-piece gasket, is it even possible to slide the new one under/around the oil pump pickup, crank, etc and into position? Don't worry about getting it dirty, worry about positioning it and not damaging it.
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Old 04-29-2014, 07:47 PM
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I haven't came across an American vehicle that had enough space to get an oil pan off or a dropable front frame cross member under the engine to facilitate dropping the pan since at least as far back as the 60's. However, I have replaced the four piece oil pan gasket on SBC's without yanking engines by raising the engine up as far as I can in the front, taking out the pan screws, lowering the pan as much as possible, cleaning off the old gasket (this really sucks, no workspace) then installing. I used thread to hold the gasket sections to the pan (didn't need to do this at every screw hole), then when the pan was up against the engine block and positioned, I'd cut the thread, pull it out and insert a screw.

So now after hearing this and despite your having a one-piece gasket, is it even possible to slide the new one under/around the oil pump pickup, crank, etc and into position? Don't worry about getting it dirty, worry about positioning it and not damaging it.
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As long as you don't need to replace the pan itself (warped or something) this is a good way to go. I did it similar on a 94 f150. Jacked motor up far as could on mounts, took exhaust off and dropped the pan far as it would go and went for it without removing the pan
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Old 04-29-2014, 07:54 PM
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Did a 79' Chevy Nova 250 and was able to get the pan off by using a cherry picker to hoist the engine up as far as it would go. It was tight, but it came out. A big royal pain. Focus's literally drop right off with nothing in the way. Everything on the bottom is easy to work on with those cars; the top, not so much. The alternator is a total bizitch on those things. Dunno why Ford didn't leave it on the front. Mazda engineers I suppose...

Anywho, Prages, does that picture include the oil pickup? Because that adds a few inches to how far the oil pan has to drop to clear.
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Old 04-30-2014, 06:37 PM
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Anywho, Prages, does that picture include the oil pickup? Because that adds a few inches to how far the oil pan has to drop to clear.
Yeah, if you look right in front of Jeff's left forearm, that's the oil pump and pickup tube.
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Old 04-30-2014, 07:47 PM
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Wow, that picture totally messed with my eyes. I didn't even see the pickup; it blended into the dude in the background. Almost like an optical illusion with the gasket lying there.
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